Gary Dee wrote: One of the 'scales' on the test ( one of 6 if I remember the # correctly - the results of the test are presented on a graph) relates to schizophrenia. The higher a person scores on this scale, the more predisposed they are to "abstract" thinking (thinking 'outside' the box) which also relates to "creativity". Of course it doesn't mean one is "schizophrenic" unless they are totally off the chart, but it has found to be a reliable assessment of a part of one's personality.
I believe all human behaviour is the result of environmental influence.
In the last five years in the UK workers within Social Services have been removing the children of schizophrenia patients. Not because of the fear that these patents might physically harm their children but because the children have been showing symptoms of schizophrenia. It seems that there is growing belief that these children’s symptoms are the result of learned behaviour, environmental influence.
I do not have any evidence to support this that I can direct you to at this time but my sister will as she is a community psychiatric nurse and is the person who informed me of this. So I will do my best to get this information from her in an attempt to clarify this position, if you would like me to.
MiChelleAngella wrote:There was a time when I thought it was only certain upbringing from childhood, [abuse for example] that might drive someone to mental illness, and therefore creativity, but while I personally have this experience as one of the causes for my own insanity, I found out later that even people who went through a normal, loving upbringing, can later on have mental illness, and also creativity.
Again I have recently been informed that children who apparently come from a normal loving family can be the victims of another kind of environmental abuse, where as it is not what is being done to the child which is the cause but what is not being done to the child.
The child is looked after well in every way but has very little physical contact with the paternal mother because of circumstance, the need to work or perhaps their own learned behaviour and thus developing a lack of empathy for others with deeply ingrained insecurities.
D.W.Winnicott, Child Psychologist said, that fundamentally two things can go wrong in childhood, one is when things happen that shouldn't happen and then things that should happen but don't.
Dr. Allan N. Schore, called this Proximal Abandonment, said it is where the parent is physically present but emotionally absent.
This information can be found online in a film called Zeitgeist: MOVING FORWARD, if you do a search for it you should find it easily but I must inform you it is not the best film I have seen it bothers me, haunts me. Luckily you do not need to watch the whole film as the important part pertaining to this is the first part about human nature. 40.20 minuets.
This information is presented by the following:
Dr. Robert Sapolsky, Professor of Neurological Sciences, Stanford University.
Dr. Gabor Mate, Physician, Author, Portland Society.
Richard Wilkinson, Professor Emeritus of Social Epidemiology, University of Nottingham.
Dr. James Gilligan, former Director: Centre for the Study of Violence, Harvard Medical School.
I ask you to watch the first 40.20 minuets of this film and then reconsider your influence in the light of it, you can watch the rest later if you want to but I do not feel it is important to this discussion.
Thank you very much for your time and understanding, BogStandad.